Why Hydrogen Cars Flopped

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Hydrogen Fuel Cells were supposed to save the auto industry from climate change, and promised no harmful emissions from the tailpipe, just pure water. So what happened? Why hasn't the hydrogen car taken over the industry in the years since? And what future does this amazing technology have? Well, it's complicated.
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Kommentarer

  • Timothy Han
    Timothy HanMinutt siden

    Ask China to start Building Hydrogen Vehicles if you want the PRices to drop.

  • Frozen Pete
    Frozen Pete20 minutter siden

    Working for a H2 company (for now), the lifespan of some fuel cell stacks is ridiculously low (some are dead in a few hundred hours), a 60k€/pce, yeah. And if repair shops are afraid of not having work because of EVs, wait for the hydrogen, the amount of stuff to make a system work is beyond nightmare. In Europe every politician has one word these days, hydrogen for everything, I'm a petrolhead, but h2, yeah right will see

  • Sareseras
    Sareseras38 minutter siden

    This being after april fools makes it weird, because it feels like a joke arguing like a bribed state official against the future we deserve, considering there are hydrogen cars that don't require any refueling stations, simply adding (clean) tap water does the trick. It's all a scam in some way or another to blame it on little details, when it's purposely shown in such a way to make the fossil fueled vehicles ok. Edit: Don't believe me? Just check out this undervalued content showing self-built water powered cars defying all these arguments nolocal.info/have/video/jZV4rteR1nxqm5o

  • michaelwilliamsnz
    michaelwilliamsnzTime siden

    In your efficiency calculations you have ignored the cost and energy required to create the lithium battery. If you include that, hydrogen is more efficient.

  • thokim84
    thokim84Time siden

    Donut beanie, just in time for Summer.

  • Russel T
    Russel TTime siden

    Very good. Don’t buy any. So that I can get $20k off manufacture, $8k federal, $4.5k state rebates, RWD, 182bhp, 75mpge, $15k free fuel (good for 75k miles), 0-60mph in 8.2”, 150k miles free tires, warranty, repairs & tow, all in just paying state tax $5.4K for a Lexus trim, and Lexus LC550 platform, 402miles range and minimum $20G residual value

  • Jeff Bradway
    Jeff Bradway2 timer siden

    I was really waiting for the day when we had some high performance hydrogen internal combustion powered cars...

  • Marcus Lang
    Marcus Lang3 timer siden

    All those points regarding price, performance and convenience are all known to be untrue. This REALLY long part of the video regarding "few fillup stations" reminds me of the trash talk against BEVs some 10 years ago. There are weak points and strong points of FCEVs though - use case dependent! We will see different drives in the next years to come - Semis will be the first widely adopted FCEVs, but also compact cars with 300mi real world range, that would be WAY too expensive in the form of a BEV!

  • NC 695
    NC 6953 timer siden

    You forgot to mention how explosive and dangerous hydrogen is. One of those cars get into a bad enough crash and the hydrogen is exposed to air and you'll get a big boom. Hydrogen is NOT the way to go

  • Meloveu Longtime
    Meloveu Longtime5 timer siden

    Fuck subsidies. Tax paid no way

  • Meloveu Longtime
    Meloveu Longtime5 timer siden

    $80 to fuel up aint shit. That is standard for $90,000 pickup trucks now days

  • Darth Gorthaur
    Darth Gorthaur5 timer siden

    How have people been fooled into thinking EVs are the way to go over hydrogen...my god it's nuts... nobody ever brings up the mining needed to make the batteries or that they need to be replaced in as little as 5yrs..

  • jonathan cole
    jonathan cole5 timer siden

    Hydrogen car is far from a flop and far from dead.

  • Juan Mollowda
    Juan Mollowda6 timer siden

    It didn't flop.... the country just hasn't offered enough subsidies to get the stations built.

  • Jesus with a gun
    Jesus with a gun6 timer siden

    hydrogen rotaries when?

  • Rusty Bucket
    Rusty Bucket6 timer siden

    Electric vehicles do not generate their own power, therefore you should have included the production of the electricity for the charging of the batteries and indeed the energy needed to produce the vehicles and their parts - including mining. That would give a whole different take on efficiency.

  • aclassmedicine
    aclassmedicine7 timer siden

    Hydrogen fuel cell technology is favoured by the fossil fuel industry, so that speaks volumes. You won't be allowed to fill your own tanks at home either.

  • Manu Sir
    Manu Sir9 timer siden

    Hydrogen, always the future, never the present.

  • ShareMan
    ShareMan9 timer siden

    the industry cares about saving their own asses. Hydrogen gas is very simple to make, anyone can do it in their own backyard. But of course what is sold in the streets is "liquid hydrogen" (what people cannot make easy themselves) Hydrogen cars have the same freedom as fuel cars. Electric cars suck because you need to wait forever for your batteries to charge, and there is no electric charge pole everywhere. All electric car manufacturers lie about the range of the car. Also the electric car is not eco as people think, the production of batteries is not good for the environment. Think of the secondhand market of electric cars... nobody is willing to buy a worn out electric car with half-dead batteries.... Electric cars are a big scam and will never become the future. Hydrogen fuel cell cars will become the future. But Im sure the big oil companies will do anything to slow down the introduction of hydrogen cars... as they will run out of business.

  • Yosyp
    Yosyp11 timer siden

    Hydrogen Vehicles are just EVs with additional steps with decreased efficiency.

  • Jay My
    Jay My12 timer siden

    If you can’t make your own you have an Achilles heel

  • Jay My
    Jay My13 timer siden

    The problem is we need to make the power on the fly, but how? It was invented in the 80’s but the patent died with him when he wouldn’t sell out! Split the water molecule and you get hydrogen and oxygen when combusted you get heat and light with water vapor as waste gas. Frequencies are the future of industry or construction, think coral castle

  • Simon

    Simon

    11 timer siden

    Lol another Stanley Meyer scam believer.

  • Abdishakur Adan
    Abdishakur Adan13 timer siden

    10 years ago nearly all busses in Amsterdam were running on Hydrogen.

  • Brandon D
    Brandon D14 timer siden

    I don't think you're right about saying they flopped they just recently installed a hydrogen station on the small island I live on there's barely a million people here

  • Connor B
    Connor B14 timer siden

    They haven’t flopped.. they’re on their way on right NOW Also Nolan’s a fucking creep. So unsettling watching him

  • J L
    J L16 timer siden

    I just urinate in my gas tank and it seems to run just dandy.

  • spaz 1 15
    spaz 1 1518 timer siden

    I wonder if you could use hydrogen in an ev to drastically Increase range. Add hydrogen unit as an auxiliary Battery charger.

  • Simon

    Simon

    13 timer siden

    Too heavy, too big and unnecessary. Current EVs can already do 500 to 600 km.

  • ImTotallySummer
    ImTotallySummer19 timer siden

    I would have bought one a while ago if I had heard about them lol

  • Brad McMichael
    Brad McMichael19 timer siden

    Good info guys as always

  • Dethmeister
    Dethmeister19 timer siden

    Shouldn't the electric vehicle's' batteries be included in its effect on the environment? Their production and disposal effects.

  • Simon

    Simon

    13 timer siden

    What about the batteries in the hydrogen car?

  • Keeli
    Keeli20 timer siden

    There are different types of hydrogen and there are different ways to make it. But EVs are not very good for the environment. They are literally made out of raw materials, mining them is hell. But EVs are the way forward for cars. Trucks and planes, that's hydrogen. Tesla Truck is literally a joke, batteries weigh too much.

  • H H
    H H21 time siden

    Someone show Scotty Kilmer this video

  • equalism 42
    equalism 4221 time siden

    Anyone that does a little research and then the maths can see for themselves hydrogen is a dead end for cars.....while hydrogen does give 33.3 KWH per kilogram of energy....the storage cylinder is heavy....energy is lost in making hydrogen, energy is lost in compressing hydrogen and energy is lost in the process of getting the hydrogen to do useful work. The only good thing about hydrogen is that energy companies can keep the consumers dependant upon them! Where as an electric car could be charged from someone's roof top solar....and hence no middle man ripping us all off, which is bad for energy companies that are positioned as middle men!

  • Wyatt Fulgham
    Wyatt Fulgham21 time siden

    I really don’t like that you did that with the audio

  • BacksteinTV
    BacksteinTV21 time siden

    If you also consider the enviromental "cost" of Li-Ion batterys, hydrogen becomes appealing quickly. There are a lot of countries that have a lot more stations than america and if you look at the power generation of the grid, you will quickly notice that hydrogen is right now the best option to pull excess power at noon to produce hydrogen which can be used later. Then the efficiency doesnt really matter (for example if you have enough solar installed). All it really needs for hydrogen to succeed is enough money from the government and the will to life a real green life, but as long as people think that dirty Li-Ion is the future nothing will happen. Li-Ion is a bridge technology, but we need to develop the infrastructure for H2 now!

  • kirk Shotton
    kirk Shotton22 timer siden

    nolocal.info/have/video/rJ9lgMaC0aWryp4

  • Roy Harkins
    Roy Harkins22 timer siden

    It ain’t dead

  • Whois Me
    Whois Me22 timer siden

    You should check out the changing Australian hydrogen industry, it might make an impact on this

  • jjd2008427
    jjd200842723 timer siden

    The energy efficient portion was unforgivably stupid. He analyses the whole energy vector process of the hydrogen car and accounts for the loses but doesn’t do the save for EVs and then presents it as though the two numbers are equivalent.

  • SorteSnog MrStayAtHome
    SorteSnog MrStayAtHome23 timer siden

    in denmark we are building a wind energy island that will cover our national needs with 190% when finished and the surplus energy will be turned into hydrogyne to power cars and other things

  • John
    JohnDag siden

    The only thing I don't like with H-cars is... well they are Hindenburg on wheels

  • Harvey Birdman
    Harvey BirdmanDag siden

    Yeah buy it would be great if you just add extra tanks on the car

  • Frankie Mandelle
    Frankie MandelleDag siden

    Fuel cell technology will bury EV in the future.

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    Never 😂

  • Pepper Jack
    Pepper JackDag siden

    Whack! If I put 80 bucks of diesel in my 6.7 Cummins I can drive that same distance towing a huge trailer and still be able to fill up anywhere and make the return trip. It’s a very interesting concept, but it’s so far outside of the realm of ever happening, it’s about 10-30 years too early to buy one.

  • BillyViBritannia
    BillyViBritanniaDag siden

    11:57 no, EV's dont use electricity directly. It needs to be converted into chemical energy stored in batteries first and is later converted back to electric energy. That being said, battery charging is extremely efficient but saying electricity is used directly is still wrong.

  • Tasnim Mahzabin
    Tasnim MahzabinDag siden

    bro u do know that hydrogen can be, and mainly is, produced by either solar or wind power? the eco friendly hydrogen cars we chemists talk about are in fact powered by completely renewable energy and is zero emissions. the only reason these cars lost was because we'd much rather save money than save the planet.

  • Tasnim Mahzabin

    Tasnim Mahzabin

    7 timer siden

    @Simon yeah that 99 percent hydrogen is used in industries like steel etc, and not what we talk about when we say green hydrogen.

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    99% of all hydrogen is produced from natural gas.

  • Bill Jorgensen
    Bill JorgensenDag siden

    Why use hydrogen to produce electricity? Just use existing internal combustion engines that run on hydrogen. You could still have a big V8 in your Corvette or your pickup truck or motorhome.

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    Because it is dumb. Burning hydrogen is very inefficient.

  • Bill Jorgensen
    Bill JorgensenDag siden

    Why not build a hydrogen producing cell right in the car? Because no one would make money on the fuel.

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    So Bill, where would the energy come from to power that ‘hydrogen producing cell’?!

  • Grayson Deere
    Grayson DeereDag siden

    The thing is they could be extremely clean way more than I think he said 38% if they just did electrolysis at the refueling stations. If they had a water tank and solar panels at the station it would be so much more efficient

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    You would need insane numbers of solar panels to produce enough hydrogen.

  • Armann Mohd
    Armann MohdDag siden

    The water flowing out from the 🚙 at *10:23* does feel a bit uncomfortable to watch 😂😂😂😂😂

  • Guided Meditation
    Guided MeditationDag siden

    We could have Hydrogen cars that run on distilled water. It is being kept from us. One inventor who was about to change the world with his inexpensive water powered car was offered a Billion dollars by the OPEC nations. He said no and weeks later he was dead. Still no water powered cars available. We could power our homes on 3 gallons of water per week.

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    😂😂

  • Robert Tyrrell
    Robert TyrrellDag siden

    I could swear I seen a vid back in 80s of onboard port hydrogen production systems running off cars battery. Car produced its own hydrogen w 6 cells. Like the the gyroscopic motor in 1972 that got 87 MPG the tech was bought by Texaco never seeing light of day. So what happened to $1.3 B Bush offered? That was a lot of $ back then. Lets compare hydro production to oil refinement. Whats it cost in energy to make a gal of gas? Transport it & efficiency. If Gov't subsidized the infrastructure(?) Like it does elect, Hydro might stand a chance. W Biden handing out $Ts to foriegn countries, maybe the $ should stay here. He's SOOO interested in GND.

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    Yeah that was a famous myth..

  • Darius Hober
    Darius HoberDag siden

    You are COMPLETELY wrong about why Hydrogen Cars are not a viable transportation alternative and should do more research! The best original research about utilizing hydrogen fuel cells was done by Stanley Meyer in the 1980s-except his technology was a "hydrogen on demand" system and and you produced hydrogen from water within the fuel system as you drove. He even designed a simple process to convert any gasoline car to hydrogen by replacing the gas tank with a water tank, making a slight modification to the carburetor, and installing the cell itself. Because this technology of allowing a person to "create" fuel on demand with no hassles would collapse the US Dollar, he was poisoned after meeting with the US Government. The "version" of Hydrogen Cells then offered to consumers was one where the control of fuel, hydrogen in this case, was still centrally controlled and modulated for profit and social engineering. Meyer already proofed the entire process (drove a modified car across the USA) but was purposefully denied funding from the Banking Cartel to start production. So this issue about fuel cell viability you present is a false narrative by limiting your perspective and position to the Auto-Makers and their association with the Oil Industry. The manipulation and collusion between these two forces is ridiculous. Ever wonder "why" they are allowed to sell cars that go faster than the speed limit? The gas wasted by engines that if operated properly by the owner would land them in jail is entirely irrational and cannot be defended on any level. No need to manufacture a car that can exceed 90mph. Notice you are not allowed to purchase a fully automatic weapon and be trusted to only fire single shots. So why is this allowed with technology that kills over 25 people per day through speeding? Time to think outside the box dude if you really want to explore an issue! Have a Great Day!

  • Darius Hober

    Darius Hober

    9 timer siden

    @Simon You are assuming that our understanding of Physics and Reality is sacrosanct. I was taught in the 60s that the Universe was slowing down after the Big Bang and that one day entropy would settle in. This would be following Physics as we understand it and would be "common sense" that the velocity of something is fastest at the point of explosion. Yet now with satellites and computers, the Universe is actually "speeding up" in regards to expansion! This goes completely against our understanding. Now, when working with hydroxyl gas there is what is called "quantum weirdness" when the gas is applied for other uses. This weirdness factor is at its peak if you split the water and use the H2 right then. Also, exposure to sunlight with clear tubing and plexi-glass enhances the strange properties. A few examples of this are that steel can be rust-proofed if it is exposed to a hydroxyl flame. Actually changes the crystalline structure of the steel. You can also feed radioactive material through the flame of the gas and it will decrease the radioactivity of the material with every pass. There is something about working with hydroxyl gas that defies our understanding and explanation beyond just a fuel source for a motor, hence the "weirdness" tag. I have no reason to lie to you-just sharing my experiences. If you approach LIFE with an "I don't know" mindset, it stays open for new and novel understanding. Have a Wonder-Filled Day!

  • Simon

    Simon

    12 timer siden

    @Darius Hober It’s impossible. You cannot create more energy than you started with. The energy that the hydrogen generates by combusting inside the engine can NEVER be more than the electric energy that was used to make it in the first place. Basic thermodynamics.

  • Darius Hober

    Darius Hober

    12 timer siden

    @Simon WTF-It does WORK! Obviously you are confusing simple mechanics of an automobile with your layman understanding of physics-all batteries are recharged when an engine is working through the alternator. How the hell does your car continue to operate at night with the lights on and then restart again the next morning? As I stated above, witnessed Meyer's vehicle and there are numerous News features showing him driving cross-country. He did not "stop" and replace batteries. Same with the fuel-cell my friends built in the 2010s. The alternator charged the batteries. Again Brother-Have a Wonderful Day.

  • Simon

    Simon

    13 timer siden

    @Darius Hober I would love it to work, but it is just simple physics. Of course the vehicle can function during a demonstration, but only as long as the batteries that power the fuel cells are not depleted. That’s all.

  • Darius Hober

    Darius Hober

    18 timer siden

    @Simon Easy to just be a naysayer without anything to back up the ad hominine attack. Declaring his work a "scam" without proof demonstrates a serious intellectual shortfall. Actually went to Ohio and witnessed the car in the 80s and had plenty of VHS recording of this. I later became friends with Yul Brown's (Browns Gas) lab assistant and my friends built a fuel cell using a stacked plate configuration instead of a scroll for the metal plating. The fuel cell generated 3 liters flow per minute hydrogen with two car batteries as power source. There are plenty of these type of cells powering vehicles all around the world-but they are not "sold" or commercialized due to the "System". If you really think about it, the 3 major issues plaguing humanity would cause a collapse of the Global Economy. Fuel, Health, and Warfare are the "BIG THREE". If you came up with an alternative fuel source that was cheap or free-the US Dollar collapses. If you "cured" cancer the economy would collapse since so much is invested globally in research and chemotherapy. If "peace" were to break out globally, the Global economy would collapse because weaponry is the number one commodity in the world. Expand your horizon a little Simon and you might understand things a little better. Have a Great Day!

  • Jan ko
    Jan koDag siden

    13:42 huh? H2 cars tred to solve problem of air polution and finite oil supply, how is that a problem that didn't need to be solved?

  • Tim Toolman
    Tim ToolmanDag siden

    Trucking will be hydrogen. No time to watch this video. That will start the supply build up. Hydrogen produced by windfarms and solar. Long term Fusion. Battery cars are not the answer long term.

  • utPheeLboy
    utPheeLboyDag siden

    what if we'd use environment friendly ways to produce the energy required to produce hydrogen?

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    What if we use that exact same renewable energy to charge electric vehicles?

  • TestarossaRocks
    TestarossaRocksDag siden

    Gas, is why. Too much money.

  • Tsetso Zdravkov
    Tsetso ZdravkovDag siden

    In the environment chapter you've missed the production, storage and recycling of batteries, which is worse than everything else. Plus, you should also calculate the used water during the battery production...

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    He did not mention production of the batteries, fuel tanks and fuel cell for the hydrogen car either.

  • Naman Lahoti
    Naman LahotiDag siden

    But making Batteries from Rare Earth minerals is a very energy incentive process along with a process rife human rights abuses - was that factored in?

  • Martin Sander

    Martin Sander

    Dag siden

    Yes - there have been numerous studies on this - most studies conclude that even in a electric grid with mostly coal power, battery electric vehicles have lower lifetime emissions than a gas or diesel car. As for the rare earth minerals - I suppose you mean Cobalt primarily then. A lot of battery manufacturers are trying to reduce their dependence on Cobalt, and iirc Tesla/Panasonic don't use Cobalt at all for their batteries. You will also find rare earth minerals in pretty much every vehicle of any type.

  • Cavan P
    Cavan PDag siden

    I was surprised to learn that hydrogen fuel powers an electric motor, rather than a combustion engine. Figured hydrogen gas would work like gasoline and be ignited in tiny amounts to work pistons.

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    Hydrogen in combustion engines are even more inefficient.

  • Affluent Nerd
    Affluent NerdDag siden

    How bout a hydrogen electric hybrid?

  • Rahul Bhatia
    Rahul BhatiaDag siden

    why their are not any hydrogen engines which works with combustion of hydrogen just like simple engines

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    Horribly inefficient.

  • vinayak vk
    vinayak vkDag siden

    I don't have any problem with ev rather paying daily for __ fuel I have solar panels in my house and its enough for me to my commute

  • SavvyPlayzYT NZQ
    SavvyPlayzYT NZQDag siden

    The car looks like its peeing , oh wait i know why people dislike hydrogen cars because they FREAKING EMIT PISS

  • Richard Bambenek
    Richard BambenekDag siden

    Short answer, remember the Hindenburg?

  • epicPhsycoturtle
    epicPhsycoturtleDag siden

    liked because of the dreamcast shoutout

  • TheLizardKing1967
    TheLizardKing1967Dag siden

    A 94' Celica. A new car dealership’s worst nightmare! 😂 Scotty Kilmer

  • Lennart Gran
    Lennart GranDag siden

    I mean you already said Hydrogen is better than gas, but completly forgot that we don't even have enough minerals on earth to build enough batterys for all the electric cars...

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    Where did you get that information?

  • Marco Hangman
    Marco HangmanDag siden

    There are a lot of renewable energy that are being wasted and are untapped coz of storage issue. We all know that we are being bombarded by the sun 8 hours a day, :) This is where hydrogen comes in. It’s light weight and no need to mine lot of precious metals. The only problem real problem that I see is the cost, or maybe the revenue from the grid that they will loose..😜

  • Lukaka Repa
    Lukaka RepaDag siden

    I'd be more concerned of possible hydrogen enbrittlement of any containers.

  • Dan Lane
    Dan LaneDag siden

    Hydrogen does have one advantage over batteries: energy density.

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    Only be weight, not by volume.

  • James Dunbar
    James DunbarDag siden

    And this is why Honda added a plug-in hybrid model for the Clarity for the car's 2nd generation.

  • Mr Anthony
    Mr Anthony2 dager siden

    Hydrogen - over the last week I have been in and out of hospitals up and down the country without Gas surely I would be on the side of the road. Can just go get a gas can full do you need to tow a stranded EV?

  • Darren McDowell
    Darren McDowell2 dager siden

    Too bad for the hydrogen car, takes too much juice for production

  • damiancanteros
    damiancanteros2 dager siden

    Cheap lithium could be a factor for the success of the electric car too. But why is lithium cheap?

  • Snowy
    Snowy2 dager siden

    the biggest problem is the lack of hydrogen farms with more farms hydrogen will get cheaper and hydrogen will be a lot more appealing

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    Not really. Hydrogen always remains inefficient.

  • Ludix147
    Ludix1472 dager siden

    A very cool thing is that you can vary the rate of hydrogen production depending on the load of the grid. So if there's an exceptional amount of wind, you can just use that to make hydrogen. And you don't need expensive batteries to store it.

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    If there is an exceptional amount of wind, you just crank up charging speeds of EV chargers. Much easier and already exists.

  • Boaz Sla
    Boaz Sla2 dager siden

    80 bucks per tank are normal prices tf yall on ab? Gas cost like 1,4-1,5 euros per liter

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    Only in Murica

  • Dgisch
    Dgisch2 dager siden

    well nothing that drives is good for the environment electricity doesnt spawn in your outlet

  • Sportsnut jim
    Sportsnut jim2 dager siden

    green hydrogen is the answer.... partly

  • Simon

    Simon

    2 dager siden

    Yeah, for ships and possibly aircraft.

  • j v
    j v2 dager siden

    1:23 thank you for adding that scream to my day.

  • Klaus Schaffer Peci
    Klaus Schaffer Peci2 dager siden

    I bet this guy has a tesla. Specifically a tesla model 3

  • Daniyal Khan
    Daniyal Khan2 dager siden

    Mirai can be hybrid,..! (Electric + Hydrogen)

  • Star of Eden
    Star of Eden2 dager siden

    money talks bullshit walks as long as they can milk your pockets for cash they will do it water car was invented long ago as a steam car engine but selling fuel and oil is much more profit taking from your pockets than cheaper free alternatives now hydrogen is next but dangerous as well everyone can use garden water or piss in the tank to get going companies go bank rupt so electrical cars are next as they can still milk you for cash hydrogen is not dead and there is still companies announcing it as a next project its all competiton and your pockets that matter to them

  • Martin Sander

    Martin Sander

    Dag siden

    Hydrogen is, as mentioned in the latter part of the video, pretty decent for larger applications where energy density by weight is important. For small personal vehicles? Not so much. Especially with electric cars still rapidly getting cheaper and with many models now starting to exceed 500 km or more in range rating.

  • Ashley D
    Ashley D2 dager siden

    If you'd told me 15 years ago that EVs would win out over hydrogen I wouldn't believe you. I was convinced it was the only viable replacement for petrol given that it worked the same but with zero emissions.

  • Aussie Taipan
    Aussie Taipan2 dager siden

    With most EVs being less than 10 years old, it will be interesting to see them at 20 or more years old. While I do like EV's I hate the hours spent charging and long trips and towing are a no go in AU. With this I go back to my trusty old ICE cars. I prefer the H2 cars with their quick refill times. We just need H2 infrastructure and government input and mandate.

  • Skeptical Caveman
    Skeptical Caveman2 dager siden

    Hydrogen cars are such a bad idea. Battery electric cars can be charged at home and everywhere electricity is available, hydrogen cars are COMPLETELY dependent on refueling at hydrogen stations. This means that you can only travel to places where hydrogen fuel stations exist. With battery EV's on the other hand you can travel to your relatives at the countryside and charge at their wall outlet, no problem. You can even travel to the middle of nowhere if you have portable solar panels that you can charge your car with.

  • Eli E Co
    Eli E Co2 dager siden

    A bit misleading. You are not comparing apples to apples!!! You have not factored in the real cost of creating the electricity for EV's. You have not factored in the cost and environmental aspects of the batteries. Hydrogen costs will plummet drastically once the infrastructure is in place and the numbers grow.

  • Simon

    Simon

    2 dager siden

    "You have not factored in the real cost of creating the electricity for EV's." - Not relevant. They both start with the same electricity. "You have not factored in the cost and environmental aspects of the batteries." - Not relevant. He didn't factor in the cost and environmental aspects of the batteries, fuel tanks and fuel cell that go in a hydrogen car either. "Hydrogen costs will plummet drastically once the infrastructure is in place and the numbers grow." - Wrong. Hydrogen will remain VERY inefficient and therefore expensive, no matter the scale.

  • Martin O'Shea
    Martin O'Shea2 dager siden

    Hydrogen is almost a 100 green when produced with wind turbines. Batteries components are terrible for our environment. I hope the run away success of electric can be pivoted to hydrogen. Also fulling is so much more convenient when at the pump. We just need more…

  • Simon

    Simon

    Dag siden

    @Martin O'Shea Yeah that is a cool island but it does not solve the efficiency problem. You will need three times as many wind turbines if we all went for hydrogen cars.

  • Martin O'Shea

    Martin O'Shea

    Dag siden

    @Simon if we are all hydrogen we can take advantage of the infrastructure coming in the grid coming online. Like the hydrogen island being built in Denmark. fuelcellsworks.com/news/denmark-decides-to-construct-the-worlds-first-windenergy-hub-as-an-artificial-island-in-the-north-sea-to-include-green-hydrogen/ Others just need to follow the example. Green energy should have a green storage mechanism and hydrogen is the greenest we have right now.

  • Simon

    Simon

    2 dager siden

    @Martin O'Shea The problem is that the hunger for energy of a hydrogen car is much more harmful. The electricity emissions per kilometer are three times higher than an EV.

  • Martin O'Shea

    Martin O'Shea

    2 dager siden

    @Simon I hear what you're saying, but would you prefer to build the minimum amount of lower efficiency/harmful batteries now, or build loads because things won't get better. Tech always gets better so let's take the minimum amount of today's harmful technology and make products that can be repaired.

  • Simon

    Simon

    2 dager siden

    @Martin O'Shea The Toyota Mirai has a similar lithium ion battery. It is indeed smaller, but will need replacing much earlier due to the much higher number of cycles it has to go through.

  • Onne de Moes
    Onne de Moes2 dager siden

    What about a Hydrogen internal combustion engine?

  • Simon

    Simon

    2 dager siden

    Very inefficient.

  • Manc 2608
    Manc 26082 dager siden

    Hello from the UK. When 40 million people are trying to charge their EV’s at the same time plus. We’re going to have a problem. Also many can’t because of where they live terraced houses apartments etc. I wouldn’t write Hydrogen off just yet.

  • Simon

    Simon

    2 dager siden

    That is a common misconception. We won't be charging all at the same time and we only need about 10 kWh a day on average.

  • William Figge
    William Figge2 dager siden

    I think you are correct about the popularity of electric cars over hydrogen, however your efficiency comparison is skewed. How much of that 100 watts does it take to make a lithium battery? And as far as batteries being clean energy, what happens to the environment when producing batteries? The mining of the raw materials, and chemical process required for manufacturing batteries. What happen to the lithium battery when it no longer holds a charge?

  • Simon

    Simon

    2 dager siden

    Dude, read the other comments. Literally thousands complain about the same thing. But it's not relevant because, guess what, hydrogen cars ALSO require lithium batteries, carbon fiber hydrogen tanks, and fuel cells with platinum in them. They ALSO require manufacturing, they ALSO wear out and need to be replaced and they ALSO need to be recycled.

  • Puneet Seth
    Puneet Seth2 dager siden

    The real joke in the video is at 14:32 😂

  • Lyle Kirsch
    Lyle Kirsch2 dager siden

    Okay here is my opinion, make more EVs. BUT and this is important use trains for things like moving people long distances like Chicago to NY or LA type of things. EV Trucks are a bad idea, we already have trains that (with some money) can be made fully electric and would be massively more efficient. A train is more efficient for many reasons, such as being on metal wheels creating less friction and they do less stop and start. Trains are also able to carry more and they don't damage roads and bridges like a truck would. I would however say that small electric trucks would be good for moving things from trains around towns and cities.

  • Maki Zermalias
    Maki Zermalias2 dager siden

    You fogot to mention the by-products produced by each type of power source. EVs leave behind toxic batteries, we all know about gas, but what is the by-product of H2?

  • Geez_ Mahn
    Geez_ Mahn2 dager siden

    Hydrogen consumer cars are fucking moronic. I’m honestly surprised anyone fell for it.

  • arjuman banu
    arjuman banu2 dager siden

    the same reason why zepelines failed.

  • Tera Star
    Tera Star2 dager siden

    Isn't the creation and disposal of lithion batteries pretty bad for the environment too? If i were to guess, probably worse than using a bit more power from the grid to extract hydrogen

  • Engineering the weird guy

    Engineering the weird guy

    2 dager siden

    So at a guess I’d say they’re neck and neck in that regard

  • Engineering the weird guy

    Engineering the weird guy

    2 dager siden

    It’s not a little, it’s 3 times more than just putting that energy into a BEV. however whilst battery production isn’t super clean, Hydrogen requires the use of large batteries as well (although not as large) and the production of a fuel cell which itself uses exotic materials and the fuel tanks also require exotic materials as it not only has to withstand pressures 32x higher than LPG is stored at *AND* be anti puncture, but hydrogen atoms are so small they can leak *through solid steel* meaning you need some pretty exotic and energy intense (to manufacturer) material to contain the hydrogen.

  • Spark Ev
    Spark Ev2 dager siden

    Only fools buy hydrogen cars!

  • Louis Robbins
    Louis Robbins2 dager siden

    My only problem with this video is you went through the process of producing Hydrogen and Gasoline but acted like electricity was just there. Even the cheapest electricity like Nuclear is not 95% efficient.

  • Simon

    Simon

    2 dager siden

    They both start with the same electricity...

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